White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby defended President Biden's decision to supply cluster munitions to Ukraine, emphasizing the urgent need to maintain Ukraine's combat capabilities. During an appearance on ABC's "This Week," Kirby explained that Ukraine's artillery ammunition consumption is extremely high and that current production cannot keep pace. The cluster munitions are intended as a temporary solution while production of standard artillery shells increases.

This decision, made after months of deliberation, aims to provide Kyiv with the necessary firepower to bolster its counteroffensive against Russian forces. However, the move is controversial, as many NATO allies have banned these munitions due to their potential for civilian casualties. The munitions release numerous smaller bomblets upon detonation, posing a risk to non-combatants.

President Biden, in a CNN interview, acknowledged the difficult decision, stating that he was persuaded by the Defense Department's recommendation and consultations with allies and lawmakers. He underscored the critical shortage of ammunition faced by Ukrainian forces.

Kirby addressed concerns about civilian casualties, stating the U.S. is committed to demining efforts with Ukraine. He also pointed out that Russia is already using cluster munitions indiscriminately, while Ukraine will use them defensively against Russian positions within its own territory. He argued that Russian forces pose a greater threat to civilians overall, regardless of the specific munitions used.

Kirby further clarified that the U.S. prioritizes Ukraine's victory in the war before addressing NATO membership. He cautioned that granting membership now would effectively put NATO at war with Russia. The current focus is on supporting Ukraine's defense and facilitating necessary political and economic reforms.

Regarding reports of unofficial meetings between former U.S. officials and Russia's foreign minister, Kirby confirmed that National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan was not involved. He reiterated the U.S. position that any negotiations to end the war must include Ukraine.